FAKE products EXPOSED – 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2


Another 2 faked products have been exposed:

  • 1285 Muscle
  • TRIG X2

1285_bottle trigx2

CHECK OUT THIS LINK FOR A FURTHER 30 PRODUCTS BUSTEDhttp://gertlouw.com/2015/04/14/massive-bodybuilding-supplement-syndicate-scam-exposed/


Shady products by shady companies:

  • www.1285muscle.com and www.trigx2.com


Let me explain how they are busted:

For the 2nd time I am being abused by high profile international marketing material with fake products.

The companies promoting these products stole my photos (see my pic at bottom of advert) and again they write up a fake story as if I told it. Be very wary everyone, these products are FAKED (1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2) and does NOT work.

They have to steal photos and write fake stories to try and prove a unprovable point.

You will loose money when you deal with these people.


The following report from www.scambook.com

1285 Muscle (Muscle Pro) 1800-969-3081

  • 1285 Muscle (Muscle Pro) 1800-969-3081Summary1285 Muscle (Muscle Pro) 1800-969-3081 received their 10th complaint on 10/28/2013.Information about 1285 Muscle (Muscle Pro) 1800-969-3081 was first submitted to Scambook on Aug 11, 2013. Since then the page has accumulated 15 consumer complaints.
  • On average users reported $143.99 of damages.
  • Address:
    • 3801 Northeast 15th Avenue
    • Fort Lauderdale FL 33334
  • Website:http://www.1285musclepro.com
  • Phone:(800) 969-1509, (800) 969-3081, (800) 969-8314
  • Additional Employees: No known Employees
  • TrigX2 Complaint 270569 for $200.00
    Posted Aug 29th, 2013

    They don’t send you any type of correspondence when it comes to their product and will sneakily automatically subscribe you into their program. They also do not provide you an email or paper…

  • Trig x2 Complaint 282811 for $300.00
    Posted Oct 25th, 2013

    They tell you just pay for shipping to receive a free trial bottle and before you receive it they will charge you approx $100 for the next months supply!!!! NO WHERE on the page for the trial bottle…

…Any attorney out there that want to make some money…PLEASE contact me!

gert Gert Louw

Here is the original marketing article with STOLEN photos and FAKE MADE UP story (all utter lies – stay clear from these products):

SPECIAL REPORT: Lean Muscle in a Bottle? Get 6 Pack Abs in Just 1 Month With These 2 Muscle Supplements That Celebrities Use.

This report was created by Men’s Health to expose the truth behind a very weird

FAKE products EXPOSED - 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2 2

Staff reporter Bryan Stevens investigates a weird muscle solution that is quickly gaining popularity around the world. Read his shocking findings to building incredible muscle mass in less than 1 month.

(Men’s Health) – For the past few months our readers have been going crazy over two new free products that are helping men lose fat and get ripped in less than a month. Even celebrities like Daniel Craig and Gerard Butler have lost a ton of body fat and added an insane amount of muscle using these two products.

These products are clinically proven to flush out the toxins in your body, melt away body fat and pack on tons of muscle. It’s a deadly combo for getting insanely ripped. In this article, we’ll tell you exactly why these products work and why they warrant a special report.

We know that putting on muscle often feels like an impossible challenge. At Men’s Health, we’ve evaluated numerous fad muscle programs and it seems like everything is expensive and nothing really works. The reason why most programs fail is because they impose unrealistic restrictions on your daily life. Some tell you to eat tons of protein while others emphasize the importance of carbohydrates. In either case, you have to make drastic changes to your regular . In this special report, we take an in-depth look at a new and promising trend that we think is easy to use and yields real results.

The product we’re talking about is 1285 Muscle. You may have seen this supplement in the news or on TV as the completely safe and powerful “secret” used by celebrities and body builders around the world. Today, we are leaking their secret and teaching you how to get muscular celebrity bodies for free. In this special report, you’ll learn about these two promising new products, 1285 Muscle and Trig X2.

FAKE products EXPOSED - 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2 4Gerard Butler uses muscle supplements like 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 to lose fat fast, while gaining extreme muscle.

1285 Muscle’s high anti-oxidant content and powerful strength gaining properties make it a muscle-building machine. If you’re feeling skeptical right now, you’re not alone. When we first learned about this fat-burning/muscle-building combo our fad radar went off right away.

Despite our doubts about 1285 Muscle, the countless success stories reported worldwide made us take a second look at this trend. What particularly interested us was the fact that these people saw results without having to significantly change their lifestyles or eating habits. Combine 1285 Muscle with Trig X2 and you’ve created an automatic muscle building machine.

Jack Evans from London reported that he lost fat and gained 14 lbs of muscle in just 5 weeks using only the 1285 Muscle and combo muscle .

On his blog he wrote,

“I couldn’t believe how easy it was. I didn’t have to change my or my daily routine at all. I just took two pills a day and the fat melted off like butter and I literally got shredded. I now have muscles that I didn’t even know existed. I even have a 6-pack now, which is the best part. The girls love it”

At Men’s Health, we decided to try the 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 for ourselves. For the test, I wanted to be the guinea pig because I was training to be in a fitness competition and needed to slim down and gain many pounds of muscle. To try out the 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 I decided to get a free trial of 1285 Muscle. Although there are many muscle supplement offers available, I chose this site because they are one of the most credible and trustworthy suppliers on the market. While most 1285 Muscle products use lower concentrations of the strength gaining extract, this supplier has one of the concentrated and purest products on the market. Everyone at Men’s Health agreed that this product would give me the best results for my test.

FAKE products EXPOSED - 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2 81285 Muscle & Trig X2 have been featured in ESPN magazine highlighting olympic athletes performance and muscle gains.

The free trial bottle of 1285 Muscle was delivered in a few days from ordering and with surprisingly inexpensive shipping. 1285 Muscle is one of the most concentrated and purest muscle building on the market. It was our shared opinion that this would give me the most accurate results for my test.

1285 Muscle has been clinically proven to:

(This is the first step in the . This one is the hemo-dilator that builds lean muscle. It’s completely legal, safe, and has none of the bad steroid-like side effects.)

  • Enhance athletic performance and strength
  • Pump more blood into muscles by expanding veins and capillaries
  • Deliver nutrients to muscles at a faster rate, which quickly builds lean, solid mass
  • Give muscles more definition and size
  • Have positive sexual side effects (I’m not even kidding. my favorite muscle seems bigger too. Probably from the expanded blood vessels)

Although we were pretty skeptical, we wanted to find out for ourselves if the supplements could do everything it claimed. Most of the success stories we heard about combined 1285 Muscle with an additional amino acid supplement to achieve maximum muscle goals. The idea is that the Trig X2 will help you lose most of the weight and gain energy while the amino acid supplement will take off the hard to lose fat and allow your body to burn calories more efficiently. After further research, we chose to test Trig X2 as our secondary supplement.

Trig X2 has been clinically proven to:

(This is the fat burner and detoxifier. Now this is the key! Taking 1285 Muscle in the morning and Trig X2 later on really sped up my shred.)

  • Increase the of calories burned
  • free radical damage to muscles
  • Have higher antioxidant levels than pomegranates and blueberries
  • Increase energy and fight fatigue
  • Burn calories even at rest
  • Get rid of bloated “puffy” look
  • Boost metabolism
  • Clean out/detox colon which leads to serious weight loss and increase energy
  • Help give muscles shape and definition

Both 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 arrived within 4 days of having placed my order online for the free trials and were inexpensive to ship.
To test out the product, I took one 1285 Muscle pill every morning and one Trig X2 pill every evening for 4 weeks.

  1. Take one 1285 Muscle pill per day (in the morning)
  2. Take one Trig X2 pill per day (in the evening)
These Were My Results – 15 lbs of Muscle In Just 1 MonthWeek One:After 1 week on the new routine, I was surprised by how fast and dramatic the effects were. My energy level was up and I wasn’t as hungry as I usually was. This is a welcomed side effect of 1285 Muscle and its power to curb appetite. I honestly felt fantastic and best of all, I didn’t have to change anything about my daily routine.On Day 7, I got on the scale (this new digital scale that measures fat and muscle composition) and couldn’t believe my eyes–I had gained 2.5 lbs in muscle mass. But still I wasn’t completely convinced. They say that in the beginning of some muscle programs, you lose a lot of water weight and gain a lot of muscle. I wanted to see if I would still gain this much muscle in the upcoming weeks. But it sure was looking up! I now weighed under 155 pounds for the first time in years!Week Two:After 2 weeks of using both supplements I had more energy and was sleeping more soundly than ever. I wasn’t waking up in the middle of the night or tossing and turning because my body was able to relax (a result of the supplements’ detoxifying properties, I think). I also managed to lose another 7 pounds of fat, putting me at an unbelievable 150 lbs in just 2 weeks. I could also feel a 6-pack coming through, which my girlfriend loved. Hell yeah!At this point I started to put more faith in these muscle products as more than just a gimmick.Week Three:After 3 weeks, all my doubtsandskepticisms had vanished! I had gained 12.5 lbs of pure muscle and had lost 8 pounds of fat. All the fat on the sides of my stomachwerecompletely gone. My stomach was so defined I finally had a 6-pack! These products are just amazing. I lost a ton of fat and the muscle gains are UNREAL.I still had a lot of energy as well. Usually around the third week of other diets you tend to run out of steam. But with 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 my energy levels didn’t dip. Instead, they remained steady throughout the day! I even noticed that my stomach was digesting food better, no bloating or embarrassing gas after I ate.Week Four:After the fourth week, I was completely shocked by my final results. I gained an unbelievable 16 lbs of muscle mass since starting the 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 routine! Everyone at Men’s Health wants to try the diet now. In week 4 I lost 7 more lbs of fat on top of the 16 lbs of muscle I had gained. I was ready and confident for the fitness competition. I am definitely going to continue taking 1285 Muscle because it produces consistent, amazing results and has so many other muscle building compounds which help with muscle memory and maintaining mass.

I couldn’t be any happier with the results.
I gained 16 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks . No Special , No Intense Exercise.


I gained 16 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks. No Special Diet, No Intense Exercise.

In conclusion, if you want to lose fat and gain muscle mass but are doubtful about the effects of this routine, you need to try it for yourself. From my own experiment for Men’s Health, we can tell you that the results are real. We at Men’s Health had our own doubts initially, but we were quickly turned into believers. After conducting our own studies, we are also pleased to see that people are really finding success with this .
You can reach your goals with the 1285 Muscle and Trig X2 combo diet,

Bryan Stevens
FAKE products EXPOSED - 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2 16Step 1

Click Here To Get A Free Trial Of 1285 Muscle
Use promo code ‘RIPPED’ to get $2.99 shipping!

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FAKE products EXPOSED - 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2 16Step 2

Click Here To Get A Free Trial Of Trig X2
Use promo code ‘MUSCLE’ to get $2.99 shipping!

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Author: gertlouw

In the deepest south of South Africa you will find me. Dwelling in the most beautiful city in the world, Cape Town. I live close to God and try to follow in the footsteps of Christ as led the Holy Spirit. I am a fitness freak right now…but struggle with the cardio – my body just not built for much cardio! The weights I LOVE throwing around! The battle against the weights and intense strength required, is really my cup of tea! I am one of those LOUD guys in gym while training, that’s why I train when as little as possible people around…lol! Starting now with my building phase (3 months) and me and my training partner is really pushing each other to new heights. He is more cardio orientated than me so he is currently KILLING ME! SO 6-PACK, I AM WAITING…SHOW ME HOW DEEP YOUR CUTS CAN GO! Other passions include Karate and Judo and wrestling (and off course surfing for many years). Karate I did for many years, Judo 4 yrs and for a short period kickboxing until I was knocked silly one time with blood all over and teeth protruding through my lip, but if I have to choose over, I would choose wrestling…simply because of the brutal power against power game with your opponent. Love it. Love my home theatre hobby, making youtube videos and spending time with family! Can’t wait for 4K projectors to hit mainstream! For those interested, this blog is my database of all my fitness and transformation knowledge. And NO (!) I am not getting any money for it, not selling anything on it and neither do I promote anything on it or getting sponsored by anybody. My blog is simply where I want to help other guys living a healthier life and become the best they can be, inside and out and ultimately it is my legacy I want to leave my one and only son – now 7 y/o and already eager to get his 6-pack! I started my healthy living after a very close call with death at age 40 and since then fighting against severe kidney and liver damage. Don’t like talking about it, but this is now 10 years after I was given 2 years to live. After much hardship one of my main aims now is to assist other guys with healthy living and transforming themselves inside and out. I don’t know how much grace will still be given me, but I live now every moment to be the best I can be. To be the best bodybuilder I can be, the best father, best husband and best friend to those whom my paths crosses. I want to live a life worth living and not just do what excites me or pleases me. Living with grace everyday, death becomes a closer reality. This is how I view it: ~DEATH~ A sick man turned to his doctor as he was preparing to Leave the examination room and said, ‘Doctor, I am afraid to die. Tell me what lies on the other side..’ Very quietly, the doctor said, ‘I don’t know..’ ‘You don’t know? You’re, a Christian man, and don’t know what’s on the other side?’ The doctor was holding the handle of the door; On the other side came a sound of scratching and whining, And as he opened the door, a dog sprang into the room And leaped on him with an eager show of gladness. Turning to the patient, the doctor said, ‘Did you notice my dog? He’s never been in this room before. He didn’t know what was inside.. He knew nothing except that his master was here, And when the door opened, he sprang in without fear. I know little of what is on the other side of death, But I do know one thing… I know my Master is there and that is enough.’ Feel free to contact me directly if you wish. Reading this far, the last bit important info on me you need to know, is that my anchor in life is Jesus Christ. Please bear in mind, English is my 2nd language and as a result their might be spelling, grammatical and other language errors in my blog – I do apologise for this! Wish you all many blessings. Gert Louw

57 thoughts on “FAKE products EXPOSED – 1285 MUSCLE and TRIG X2

  1. So I come home from being out of town for a long time. To find eight bottles of extreme muscle recovery and eight bottles of 1285 muscle both I didn’t order. both sent to a different address than what my address is. Somehow they found their way to me may because post office knew my name. Apparently they been charging me $100 a month that I had no idea it was coming out of my account. Call both companies both companies told me they would only reimburse me for one month. Both companies eventually repaid me for three months. I kept asking for the managers manager’s manager and no one would give me their name or number. They wouldn’t even give me the corporate office phone number. They all said the same thing how do I know I’m not lying but if eight bottles were supposed to be sent and there’s eight unopened still in the packaging why wouldnt they take them back. How is it even close to being illegal to steal money out of someone’s account without them knowing or given the okay for something they did not order. Anyone?

  2. Thanks so much for being apart of this and opening our eyes to these scams. I got a hold of the number and demanded from their supervisors that they take me off their subscription within the 14 day trial period. I also informed my bank to block any requests from this company and its affiliates.
    I am still early in my goal for more mass because my body consists of lean muscle and barely any fat. I will be following your site for tips and workout routines but I mainly do my working out at home and have built a home gym. If you have any suggestions or other advice that could help leaner guys like me that would be great.

    Awesome job!

    1. Oh and leaner guys…simply a matter of upping the calorie intake wisely to provide the fuel for muscle growth. You are lean because of a high metabolism, ie: burning much energy. When your body receives the correct amount of calories coupled with a solid training regime, you WILL grow! G.

  3. I stupidly ordered the stuff thinking “hey it’s a free trial, why not?” then they tried to charge me again for another supply but my card luckily declined the charges. Does this company just keep charging and charging or do they eventually stop? Or do I have to call them and tell them to stop the charges. What do I do in this situation?

    1. Tristan, the advice some other people gave that were in the same situation is to cancel your card at the bank and get a new one. Then they are forced to stop the deductions. It seems they just keep on charging you until eventually your card expires or is cancelled! Hope u come right! G.

  4. Yea, I learned the hardway too.
    I disputed the charges thru my bank and hopefully my $ will be returned.
    Do not buy these products!
    I bought 1285 muscle because they said it was free of charge, but charges kept on coming…

  5. Gert,

    Unfortunately I found out about this scam the hard way and lost approximately $50, and then found your site. Isn’t this kind of stuff illegal? False advertisement? Do you know if there is anything I could do to get my money back? Thank you!!

    1. Joey,
      Sorry to heat the buggers got u! And yip it is illegal but it is very difficult to make a case against them. The mother company never deal directly in the products but they create temporary marketing companies with short life spans through which they deal. These companies lifespans are just a few months to make it as difficult as possible for the consumer to trace and make a case.
      And if u try to sue the mother company then they just say they had nothing to do with it. it was the marketing company who by now has disappeared. Real bad!
      I also have not heard of a single person so far who has been successfully refunded…
      Sorry for the bad news.
      Wish u a GREAT day

      1. Gert,

        Much obliged for responding…and I’d like to thank you for doing what you do to help us…it’s very nice to know there are still people that are looking out for others. You’re a good man, Gert!!! Thank you!!

  6. I was headed to get my wallet for this too good to be true trial offer. When I realized there was no talk of subscription or actual full sized cost. So I googled the name 1285 muscle looking for an official website. Only to find this trial stuff over and over. Finally stumbling upon this, has opened up my eyes. Thank you so much. I could have justified the shipping cost with my wife, but she would have killed me over this scam.
    This is the article i was led to by Facebook. They are now promoting XMRecovery with the 1285 muscle.

    1. Well, if just for one thing I am glad I could help u before your wife found out!
      I understand mate…I am married too!
      I am soooo wary now of ANY supplement marketed ONLY via internet…t is the surest way it is a scam. Just check it out very well. Best bet is to only buy from a physical store where they only stock non-scam products because they have to regularly face their clients and keep them happy. These internet companies only want to function via internet because it is a sufficient faceless environment where they do not have to face clients month after month. They only want to get their hooks into your credit card. Sounds harsh, but that is the harsh reality.
      Wish u success bud in your bodybuilding

  7. I was just reading that same Men’s Health article, except when I compare it to the one posted here, TrigX2 has been replaced by XM Recovery, and blogger Jack Evans was supposedly from Toronto, not London. The before and after pics at the bottom of the article are also of a completely different (and probably more relatable) person… Lack of consistency = red flags!
    (link to the article: http://mens.healthylifestyleusa.com/mlh/index-ca-dq-1285-1.php?engsec=10)
    If these supplements don’t work, I wonder what the heck is in them and if it’s bad for you… Not that I’d try it since it’s fake anyway.

    1. Tyran – just crazy…I wonder when these people wille ever be stopped!
      They just continue ripping of everyone, left, tight and centre!
      And I am pretty sure they are reeling in many millions in the process.
      I agree about the concern regarding ingredients, completely unverified…
      Keep choosing your supps wise and train HARD.

  8. Dude.. Thank god I came across your blog. Saw some ads in Facebook and Twitter sayin this product works and stuff. To be honest I kinda fell for it at first. I nearly ordered it through their website but I decided to do a lil research coz it sounds kinda fishy.

    Turns out d research I that I did opened up my eyes. Comments n complaints is all they have. And yeah, its sounds too good to be true. So back to the old method of being healty. Eat lotsa healthy food, BCAA’s and head to the gym. Thanx again buddy. ✌️😎

  9. I saw a sponsored admin FB and claiming all these celebrities, MMA athletes were taking it.

    Glad I ran into you blog!

    If it’s too good to be true… You know the rest! Lol

    1. Thanx for the feeback Michael and glad u stumbled on my experience here. So many people loosing money with these schemes! Wish u a great day bud. G.

  10. Thanks Gert – was close to ordering but did due diligence first and found your info. As always, “If it sounds too good to be true…”! Had entered my contact info. but not credit card, and within 1 minute of closing their ordering web page I got a phone call from 561 FL area code, didn’t answer and they didn’t leave a mssg, but assuming it was this company (I don’t answer if I don’t recognize the number). I’m 45 and back to a diet and exercise plan that’s resulting in more energy and reduced waistline, the old fashioned discipline method. Will check out your blog. Thx, Bruce

    1. Bruce – thanx for the note bud! Eish man, believe me I fully understand the urge to find a magic pill….at over 40 everything is just a bit more difficult and painfull, but alas there are no magic pill. Supplements can slightly help the process but it is “supplements” and can never substitute for hard training, good diet and rest for growth….it is these basics that counts for 95% and the subs at best for about 5%. And then it is only the proven ones – BCAA’s, L-Glutamine, Creatine.

  11. So with this product, when you place an order for your free supply and $5 shipping, when have they been charging your card for more and at what cost, do these products even do anything?

    1. Jason, The only way these people “sell” their product to you, is by creating a monthly debit order that will go off month after month from your credit card and it is very difficult to stop this deduction. Most people have to cancel completely their credit card to stop it. They have to resort to stealing photos and make up lie stories to try and proof that their product work. This product will have no (!) effect. They have to sell it only by internet because the only way to escape law suites is through such a faceless medium. PLEASE stay away, u gonna loose money! G.

  12. I just ordered this yesterday but I messed up an typed in the wrong security code from my card. Called their customer service they said it went through but idk how if I entered the wrong info . I haven’t been charged yet since I just ordered it yesterday idk what to do know wish I would’ve seen this sooner . Am I going to get scammed by these ass holes now too?

    1. I think you might be lucky. Without the security code these of your card they cannot authorise a deduction. If they do, the way I understand, then your bank has to refund you because it unapproved deduction from your account which was not authorised by you. Wish u a great day. G.

  13. I sure wish i would of found this first unfortunately i got hit by this scam but its not that it dont work its that i been waiting over amonth for the trial when i called intoday to track it since the tracking number they gave me dont work on thedhl site but they have extremely rude customerservice i just asked the guy to check my order for me and he told me my account was cancelled due to a failed transaction im like transaction for what i havent even got my sample yet after waiting over a month they charged me for a bottle that i havent even got a sample of yet that really pisses me off after trying to explain that i took the money out of my acc due to the bank calling me and saying theres been fraudulant activitys so i took the money out and then they tryed to charge me for a new bottle but like i said i didnt get the first one yet how you gonna charge me for somthing when i havent even got the sample yet i tryed to talk to the supervisor and explain what happend he went on to say i costed the company money and accused me of getting the product and saying i didnt get it to stal and cause the company to lose money then proceeded to say im dumb and that i wasnt absorbing angthing he was saying then yelled a bit more and hung up on me he wouldnt even send a replacement for the bottle i never got so i called back and talked to somone else to try and get it tracked turns out it got sent back to them risk free my ass thanks for putting this up this info is better late then never fyi i think the fraudulent activity came from them since the card i used is usually only for cell phone bill house tax payment and the google store but ya im going thrugh the fraud department at the bank sucks and im unsure if ill ever get my 840$ back



      1. Hey Gert , You’re the man !! Thanx for letting us folks use your site to help you on this campaign !! This is the only site I could find that went against these THEIVE’S

      2. My pleasure bud! I just wonder how many millions (billions) these guys have pocketed so far! Anyway have a awesome day bud and keep spreading the truth. G.

  14. How do we know it is fake? Have you seen someone try it? Obviously you are not a good test subject because you are already ripped. The reasons you gave are circumstantial. I have found more good reviews than bad ones. Could you get proof either way?

    1. By the ingredients of the product it cannot produce these results they claim. Plus they have to steal photos and make up fake stories to proof that their product works because they CANNOT come up with proof, simply because it is impossible. Wish you a great day. G.

    1. Many good products out there bud…but the problem is everyone is looking for a miracle product and there are none (bar anabolics and hgh with potential serious side effects).
      NONE of the products with these miracle claims works…not even in the least.
      The only products that produce real results are the basic ones: Creatine, L-Glutamine, BCAA’s, Whey Protein powder, ZMA and good anti oxidants (ALA, CoEnxzyme Q10, Green Tea extract, etc.) Testosterone boosters have a very small impact on your testosterone levels. A lot of money for close to zero effect. You cannot substitute hard training/diet/rest with a magic pill. Even anabolics only really work in CONJUNCTION with hard training and focussed diet. I have spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on fancy supplements until I eventually realized this from experience. Hope this helps? Wish u MUCH success. G.

      1. G, after 20 years of collegiate strength and conditioning and personal training, a masters degree in exercise physiology, nearly 10 years of competitive olympic weightlifting, and piles of research, I would almost completely agree with you. I would take whey protein and all other protein powders off the list. Not because they don’t work but because in my experience, an equal amount of protein from meat actually works MUCH better. In my experience during competition seasons, it took 3-5 times the protein from powders (even the really expensive pharmaceutical grade ones) to get the same recovery as I did with meat. That was 10+ years ago, today there is research confirming it in that slow digesting proteins yield the best increases in muscle mass using equal protein amounts.

      2. Jeremy – u are spot on mate and I do not disagree with you at all. Nothing substitutes solid protein sources. But for those people like me with hectic run around lifestyles protein shakes is the only tool allowing us to get a large degree of success with bodybuilding. If I had the time (or enough wives!) I most definately would prefer the solid protein to shakes for bodybuilding. Keep training hard bud. Gert

  15. Was just getting set to order. Luckily (?) been scammed before and I found this site. Thanks so much. Good thing you’re doing.

  16. Thanks was thinking about getting the 2 bottles that they clam cuts fat and builds muscle. I will not be buying this product now.

  17. Yeah . I totally got scammed by this group of ass clowns. I wish I had seen this before I used my card. Now I have to get a new one before they bill me again:-(. If anyot knows how to make it stop, plz let me know.

    Thanks and have a good day.

    1. Hey bud. “Jockeydee” just posted this, maube it will help?
      “Hey guys and gals there is a super fast way I have done myself to stop getting charged by these fraudulent companys… if you used your bank card to purchase anything like this and see recurring charges, I called the bank and had them cancel my card first and then issue me another with a new number. I have also reported it stolen and canceled so that when the company tries to use it,, it makes them look like thieves.. it doesnt bother me bc they are theives and liars!! Haha I just wanted everyone to know how to get help fast especially if you are going to have to pay it anyway.. much faster than opening a claim!
      Good luck all”

  18. It’s a good thing I do heavy research before I purchase anything new and it’s a good thing you caught on to them. Thanks for the heads up. I’m sure you’re helping a lot of people!

    1. Thanx for the note bud…my article get a lot of hits so I know many people are hearing the truth.
      This company just reel in money from all the unsuspecting people!
      Wish u a great day bud.

    2. 1285 muscle Fraud

      have a look on Google Maps, this is 1285Muscles business address

      posted on their website

      3801 NE 15 AVE

  19. Thatnks alot Gert for the page. I’m trying to Physic compete and was looking for products and found these two. Luckily something said to research them and I ran into your page… whew! Thanks brotha… I’ll have to look for something else.

    1. Yeah bud…stick to the long established, well known brands. The likes of Universal, Muscletech, USN, EAS and so on…
      All these new super products popping up is scam stuff,,,nearly all of them is advertised with stolen photos.
      Wish u MUCH success in your Physique competitions!

  20. I ordered the product and I’m USUALLY very careful about what I order things but they got me. They advertised a “Risk Free Trial” and I read the information they presented during the ordering processes and I did NOT see anything about a 14 day trial and auto-enrolement. Plus they wanted me to send the product back to get a refund. Lame! I can go into a store and buy products that work for 1/3 the price (they charged $99.99 on day 14). But why? They sent me a 30 day supply initially and they didn’t send me anything new when they charged me the additional $99.99.

      1. Cant tell you how happy I am I read this first. You made me do a double take of the photos, and while I gotta tell you it almost dosent look like you in that last pic compared with the ones you showed (but yes I believe you, you just look younger) that “16lbs of muscle” your impostor “gained?? no freakin way. I have gained 16lbs of muscle before, and that “transformation” as they call it in that particular pic, the guy on the right easily has 40lbs+ of muscle on him compared to the guy on the left. I was looing into it as I have been off for almost a year now from an injury. Im back to normal now, but I have put back on my fat and gone from 9%body fat at 188 back down to me “natural” 170 with a belly (no fat on me, Id be somewhere around 155 Im guessing, thats how I was when i got out of the hospitol. But I was looking for new nitric boosters on the market and everyone was talking about this one. I should just do what I did before, vitamins and protien, worked well the first time, but I think I might follow your page my friend, your about where I want to be.

      2. Sorry for replying so late George. Yeah man these guys are well trained scammers! I eventually figured out why so many companies stole that particular pic, check this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqhO00C98w (round the middle I explain it – SCARY!). Anyway – thanx for the compliments. ALL my knowledge and hard work with tips and tricks is contained within this blog…it can really help the person that is serious about it to get of the ground much quicker without all the “growing pains”. Wish u success mate! Gert

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